Levitical Law

I think this is a very personal matter for every christian,
this between him/her and the Lord.

God didn't gave the laws to make our lives harder, but for our own good,
pork and shrimps and eel for example are less healthy than cow and sheep (under all normal circumstances).

But that doesn't mean that eating pork will make you go to hell.
Then again, if someone gets closer to God when he doesn't eat pork,
or when that person wears a talit (prayer shawl) during his prayers, then why would anyone stop that person.

I celebrate shabbat every friday evening, and I feel close to God , those moments are beautiful.
Is this necessary to be saved ? no.
But it is something for me personally.

But eel is Kult. The vikings ate it.

Thank you all for your input! I like what Emptytomb said on another board - that and what Mrs. Wingrid said sum it all up nicely and I am ready when she comes back.

Emptytomb spoke of the curtain being rent apart when Jesus died, completing all the law. Jesus was the ultimate and final sacrifice, doing away with all other sacrifices and requirements under the Law. He also spoke of all things being permissible, but not all things are beneficial, therefore we must make our decisions with Holy Ghost wisdom and guidance.

I also have to repent of my fears and judgments concerning this lady - she may be perfectly fine with it, and I am making more out of it than I should. I'll know in a week or so when I speak with her again.

Ash has seen it, but for those here who have not:

huh huh someone is wearing crocks :p

The tattoo is decent,
but I'm not fond of the peace sign, as it originated from a sign to bash Jesus and christianity.
(a reversed cross with broken arms) It dates from the time of the Roman emperors who used it to mock the christians.

but yeah, symbols and their change of meaning through history are a whole different thing :)

PeacethroughX wrote:
Ash has seen it, but for those here who have not:

Oooh, I like this. I am planning on getting an owl on the inside of one wrist and a dinosaur on the inside of the other, to remind me of my boys.

BloodDrift wrote:huh huh someone is wearing crocks :p

The tattoo is decent,
but I'm not fond of the peace sign, as it originated from a sign to bash Jesus and christianity.
(a reversed cross with broken arms) It dates from the time of the Roman emperors who used it to mock the christians.

but yeah, symbols and their change of meaning through history are a whole different thing :)

Never knew that. Interesting.

BloodDrift wrote:huh huh someone is wearing crocks :p

The tattoo is decent,
but I'm not fond of the peace sign, as it originated from a sign to bash Jesus and christianity.
(a reversed cross with broken arms) It dates from the time of the Roman emperors who used it to mock the christians.

but yeah, symbols and their change of meaning through history are a whole different thing :)

Yes, Crocs are handy when you have acreage and dogs... You can easily clean them with a hose.

As far as the origin of the peace symbol, sorry, but that's incorrect. You are thinking of the inverted, or upside down, cross that was used to kill St. Peter, who chose this method because he felt unworthy to die as Christ had died. It has since been appropriated by Satanism to represent anything anti-Christian, but it has also been used in it's historical place as the cross of St. Peter in the Catholic church. However, there was never any circle around it nor did they ever break the arms.

If you were alive in the 80s, that rumour about the peace symbol was started by one of the Word of Faith movement originals - I forget exactly which one, but I remember when it came out and I guess it still is being spread. It didn't take much suggestion or changes for it to take fire, like I said, even though the inverted cross never had a circle nor broken arms.

The Word of Faith movement of the 80s didn't like the Jesus People movement of the 70s (which I was a part of) because of our belief in living in community, sharing all possessions, ministering to the poor (as in actually taking care of them, clothing and feeding them) as the Apostles did in Acts. Word of Faith preached prosperity and wealth while we preached humble and simple living.

Anyway, that's a whole 'nother subject - sorry to go a little off track.

The peace symbol was created in 1958 using the semiphone symbols for N and D (nuclear disarmament) by Gerald Holtom, a conscientious objector. Just do a search on Google and you'll find all this information. That, and it was part of my American Civics when I was in high school. We had to learn all those stupid symbols in Civics class. That's one they don't have in public schools now, do they?

But the inverted cross was original used as a christian symbol. That much I know.

Kamerad Ash wrote:But the inverted cross was original used as a christian symbol. That much I know.

Exactly - it is the cross of St. Peter.

As far as the origin of the peace symbol, sorry, but that's incorrect. You are thinking of the inverted, or upside down, cross that was used to kill St. Peter, who chose this method because he felt unworthy to die as Christ had died. It has since been appropriated by Satanism to represent anything anti-Christian, but it has also been used in it's historical place as the cross of St. Peter in the Catholic church. However, there was never any circle around it nor did they ever break the arms.

I was not talking about this one,
I know the St Peters Cross and it's origin,
The peace symbol is another one,
now I don't know if your explanation is right (which could be ofcourse)
but yeah, the symbol you have isn't it also called 'the dragon's paw'? At least it is in our regions in Belgium

BloodDrift wrote:

As far as the origin of the peace symbol, sorry, but that's incorrect. You are thinking of the inverted, or upside down, cross that was used to kill St. Peter, who chose this method because he felt unworthy to die as Christ had died. It has since been appropriated by Satanism to represent anything anti-Christian, but it has also been used in it's historical place as the cross of St. Peter in the Catholic church. However, there was never any circle around it nor did they ever break the arms.

I was not talking about this one,
I know the St Peters Cross and it's origin,
The peace symbol is another one,
now I don't know if your explanation is right (which could be ofcourse)
but yeah, the symbol you have isn't it also called 'the dragon's paw'? At least it is in our regions in Belgium

Oh, I get what you're referring to! Dragon's Paw, Chicken's claw, Witches Claw - yes, historically, that refers to ANY three-toed bird-like creature that was used in pagan circles for any number of reasons! Similar design, but no, not the same as the peace symbol.

Try this: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/21/7209/

And like I said: do a google search on say, "history of the peace symbol"

And yes, in your part of the world, there is quite a bit of pagan lore!

ah thanks !
I know a fair bit of symbols, but not everything and do mix up some things still,
glad to know that.

Bummer, I was hoping it would be all occultic too.

Kamerad Ash wrote:Bummer, I was hoping it would be all occultic too.

Nope... peace and love, baby! And God is the author of the BEST peace and the GREATEST love!

Ash, as far as your remark abot long hair on men, take a look at what was happening in Corinth at the time. It's an interesting bit of trivia. Basically what we had happening was Christians living in what at that time amounted to hell on earth, and not knowing how to live seperate lives from those around them. In fact, they thought that since Christ had saved them, they could go on living as they always had.

The men of that town who wore long hair were actually prostitutes in a temple there (I forget which goddess was worshiped), and Paul was telling the men of that city to live seperately, to make it known that they were different.

The same goes for his instructions regarding women's hairstyles.

Interestingly, also, is that in that day and city, temple prostitution was perhaps the most honored career.

Just a bit of historical insight. :)